Comments for Food Diary Forum http://foodary.com Discuss Your Food Diary Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:04:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on Basic Acid Alkaline Food Chart Introduction by food diary moderator http://foodary.com/8/basic-acid-alkaline-food-chart-introduction/#comment-386 food diary moderator Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:04:41 +0000 http://foodary.com/?p=8#comment-386 The charts are now transferred, except for the ethnic foods table. This got deleted from the old site before I finished transferring, due to lack of interest. If you want it back, please ask by way of a comment here, explaining why it is important, and I will see if I can retrieve it. The charts are now transferred, except for the ethnic foods table. This got deleted from the old site before I finished transferring, due to lack of interest.

If you want it back, please ask by way of a comment here, explaining why it is important, and I will see if I can retrieve it.

]]> Comment on Basic Acid Alkaline Food Chart Introduction by food diary moderator http://foodary.com/8/basic-acid-alkaline-food-chart-introduction/#comment-363 food diary moderator Mon, 30 Jan 2012 03:19:23 +0000 http://foodary.com/?p=8#comment-363 Thank you for your kind words, Christina. You have given me fresh impetus to finish moving the acid-alkaline food charts here, and then moving on to the more serious job of making them easier to use. Also, there are other health aspects of nutrition that I want to cover, such as excess iron. I am really pleased the charts have helped you. Parsley soup sounds interesting. Do you have a recipe? Thank you for your kind words, Christina. You have given me fresh impetus to finish moving the acid-alkaline food charts here, and then moving on to the more serious job of making them easier to use. Also, there are other health aspects of nutrition that I want to cover, such as excess iron.

I am really pleased the charts have helped you. Parsley soup sounds interesting. Do you have a recipe?

]]> Comment on Basic Acid Alkaline Food Chart Introduction by Christina http://foodary.com/8/basic-acid-alkaline-food-chart-introduction/#comment-362 Christina Sun, 29 Jan 2012 23:41:00 +0000 http://foodary.com/?p=8#comment-362 I just want to thank you. I don't have gout but I've been housebound - often bedbound - with auto-immune problems that MDs don't know how to treat. Several years ago I read about the damage that low pH can cause. At the time my pH was 4.5-5. Using the misleading (often lying) charts found online, it took me several YEARS to get my pH up to 6. Using YOUR charts, I've been able to increase my pH from 6 to a healthy 7-7.5 in just a few DAYS! (Can anyone say Parsley Soup?) I am now ready to eat a more balanced diet and I feel much, much better. Thank you so much for your diligent work. (I’ve seen several USDA databases… It takes a lot of work to reorganize them into something useful and publishable.) I know you’ve already helped to save lots of lives, so thanks again and God bless. I just want to thank you. I don’t have gout but I’ve been housebound – often bedbound – with auto-immune problems that MDs don’t know how to treat. Several years ago I read about the damage that low pH can cause. At the time my pH was 4.5-5. Using the misleading (often lying) charts found online, it took me several YEARS to get my pH up to 6. Using YOUR charts, I’ve been able to increase my pH from 6 to a healthy 7-7.5 in just a few DAYS! (Can anyone say Parsley Soup?) I am now ready to eat a more balanced diet and I feel much, much better. Thank you so much for your diligent work. (I’ve seen several USDA databases… It takes a lot of work to reorganize them into something useful and publishable.) I know you’ve already helped to save lots of lives, so thanks again and God bless.

]]> Comment on Basic Acid Alkaline Food Chart Introduction by food diary moderator http://foodary.com/8/basic-acid-alkaline-food-chart-introduction/#comment-356 food diary moderator Wed, 18 Jan 2012 05:58:43 +0000 http://foodary.com/?p=8#comment-356 Hi Keith, <p>I do not understand where your alternative formula for PRAL comes from. As I said in the article, I use the method from Remer & Manz. Are you suggesting there is an alternative PRAL calculation? If so, can you let me know the references to it?</p> <p>I know there is a different formula called NEAP, however, this is a more complex calculation, and I do not see the benefit of over-complicating it.</p> The whole point of these charts is to give some pointers to where you might improve your diet to improve pH, but only testing will tell. As I wrote above: <blockquote>Use PRAL values as a guide – the real measure of your progress can only be determined by measuring the pH of your urine. This is a simple process using widely available test strips or meters.</blockquote> The whole point of the PRAL calculation is to keep things as simple as possible. It ignores the effects of less common nutrients, as their influence will be minimal. If you have an over-reliance on caffeine, alcohol, carbonated water, and aspartame, then you have a very bad diet indeed. No amount of juggling with items from PRAL tables is going to fix such a poor diet. Hi Keith,

I do not understand where your alternative formula for PRAL comes from. As I said in the article, I use the method from Remer & Manz. Are you suggesting there is an alternative PRAL calculation? If so, can you let me know the references to it?

I know there is a different formula called NEAP, however, this is a more complex calculation, and I do not see the benefit of over-complicating it.

The whole point of these charts is to give some pointers to where you might improve your diet to improve pH, but only testing will tell. As I wrote above:

Use PRAL values as a guide – the real measure of your progress can only be determined by measuring the pH of your urine. This is a simple process using widely available test strips or meters.

The whole point of the PRAL calculation is to keep things as simple as possible. It ignores the effects of less common nutrients, as their influence will be minimal. If you have an over-reliance on caffeine, alcohol, carbonated water, and aspartame, then you have a very bad diet indeed. No amount of juggling with items from PRAL tables is going to fix such a poor diet.

]]> Comment on Basic Acid Alkaline Food Chart Introduction by Keith http://foodary.com/8/basic-acid-alkaline-food-chart-introduction/#comment-354 Keith Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:28:47 +0000 http://foodary.com/?p=8#comment-354 Although you could calculate the potention PH effect of the food using your formula. Protein = A g Phosphorus = P mg Potassium = K mg Magnesium = M mg Calcium = C mg PRAL =0.49 A + 0.037 P - 0.021 K - 0.026 M - 0.013 C You could get the same approximate results using. PRAL of Daily Values = 0.245A+.37P-.735K-.104M-.13C The reason I want to show this formula is because if look at daily values this shows how alkalizing/acid forming each nutrient is. However I think more should be involved in the formula. For example how acid forming is caffeine, alcohol, carbonated water, aspartame, and the other minerals are. caffeine, alcohol, carbonated water, and aspartame I read are very acid forming. However you site shows they are alkalizing because it only calculate nutrients. Although you could calculate the potention PH effect of the food using your formula.
Protein = A g
Phosphorus = P mg
Potassium = K mg
Magnesium = M mg
Calcium = C mg
PRAL =0.49 A + 0.037 P – 0.021 K – 0.026 M – 0.013 C

You could get the same approximate results using.

PRAL of Daily Values = 0.245A+.37P-.735K-.104M-.13C
The reason I want to show this formula is because if look at daily values this shows how alkalizing/acid forming each nutrient is.
However I think more should be involved in the formula. For example how acid forming is caffeine, alcohol, carbonated water, aspartame, and the other minerals are. caffeine, alcohol, carbonated water, and aspartame I read are very acid forming. However you site shows they are alkalizing because it only calculate nutrients.

]]> Comment on Basic Acid Alkaline Food Chart Introduction by food diary moderator http://foodary.com/8/basic-acid-alkaline-food-chart-introduction/#comment-85 food diary moderator Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:08:31 +0000 http://foodary.com/?p=8#comment-85 Thank you for your comments. I'm sorry things are so slow round here, and I will try to find more time to get the acid-alkaline food charts finished, then I can get started on the more interesting part of this project - the food diary. That will have features that allow finding food items easier, as well as easy ways to assess recipes and different serving sizes. For the moment, there is an excellent search facility in the bar at the top of each page, which makes finding vinegar, or any other diet item, very easy. Thank you for your comments.
I’m sorry things are so slow round here, and I will try to find more time to get the acid-alkaline food charts finished, then I can get started on the more interesting part of this project – the food diary.

That will have features that allow finding food items easier, as well as easy ways to assess recipes and different serving sizes. For the moment, there is an excellent search facility in the bar at the top of each page, which makes finding vinegar, or any other diet item, very easy.

]]> Comment on Basic Acid Alkaline Food Chart Introduction by Donn Cole http://foodary.com/8/basic-acid-alkaline-food-chart-introduction/#comment-73 Donn Cole Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:25:09 +0000 http://foodary.com/?p=8#comment-73 Grateful for your work in making these charts available. I ran into two small problems. I was trying to find a value for vinegar and thought it would be under gravies and sauces, thinking it might relate to sauces. Later stumbled upon it under herbs and spices. Problem solved. Then second problem. Since I'm trying to calculate recipes enough to adequately offset acid ingredients like meat, I need quantities in a recipe-friendly form. It could well be I just missed it, but didn't see anything to tie vinegar to tablespoons. Found your site after being made aware of the whole acid/alkaline problem by the book Building Bond Vitality by Lanou and Castleman. You might want to mention the book on your site. Now that I understand more about acid/alkaline and other bone-building issues I didn't know about in time, I realize that osteoporosis is not a disease. It is a form of starvation, like scurvy, beri-beri, or goiter. And gout? Thanks, Donn Cole Grateful for your work in making these charts available.

I ran into two small problems. I was trying to find a value for vinegar and thought it would be under gravies and sauces, thinking it might relate to sauces. Later stumbled upon it under herbs and spices. Problem solved.

Then second problem. Since I’m trying to calculate recipes enough to adequately offset acid ingredients like meat, I need quantities in a recipe-friendly form. It could well be I just missed it, but didn’t see anything to tie vinegar to tablespoons.

Found your site after being made aware of the whole acid/alkaline problem by the book Building Bond Vitality by Lanou and Castleman. You might want to mention the book on your site. Now that I understand more about acid/alkaline and other bone-building issues I didn’t know about in time, I realize that osteoporosis is not a disease. It is a form of starvation, like scurvy, beri-beri, or goiter. And gout?

Thanks,
Donn Cole

]]> Comment on Basic Acid Alkaline Food Chart Introduction by food diary moderator http://foodary.com/8/basic-acid-alkaline-food-chart-introduction/#comment-57 food diary moderator Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:23:15 +0000 http://foodary.com/?p=8#comment-57 Sorry Susan, I have not found the time to transfer them from my <a href="http://www.goutpal.com/gout-food-to-avoid.html" rel="nofollow">health site</a> to this nutrition site. I will get them done as soon as I can, in the meantime, you can follow the above link for the full list. Sorry Susan,

I have not found the time to transfer them from my health site to this nutrition site.

I will get them done as soon as I can, in the meantime, you can follow the above link for the full list.

]]> Comment on Basic Acid Alkaline Food Chart Introduction by Susan http://foodary.com/8/basic-acid-alkaline-food-chart-introduction/#comment-55 Susan Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:31:25 +0000 http://foodary.com/?p=8#comment-55 Why can't I access all of chart please can't get into beef or nuts and seeds for example? Why can’t I access all of chart please can’t get into beef or nuts and seeds for example?

]]> Comment on Acid-Alkaline Beverages Chart by food diary moderator http://foodary.com/52/acid-alkaline-beverages-chart/#comment-48 food diary moderator Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:47:32 +0000 http://foodary.com/?p=52#comment-48 But you are not asking about beer. You are asking about gout. I am more than happy to discuss any and all aspects of nutrition here. But I already spend far too much time on GoutPal discussing aspects of gout. I do not want to spend more time doing it here as well. I am sorry if you find this wrong, but I really cannot understand why you do not want to discuss it on the gout website, where you will get input from hundreds of other gout sufferers. If you insist on discussing it here, please make your question relevant to nutrition. At the very least, please explain to me how the PRAL values for a food are an issue. I moved them from my gout site because they are only relevant to kidney stones. I genuinely love a good discussion, but I cannot see the relevance of this one. Please help me out by telling me where I have gone wrong in my explanations. By the way, I changed your link so it is not clickable. I do not want to encourage people to read the nonsense that is written there, but if anyone wishes to do so, they can copy and paste the link. But you are not asking about beer. You are asking about gout.

I am more than happy to discuss any and all aspects of nutrition here. But I already spend far too much time on GoutPal discussing aspects of gout. I do not want to spend more time doing it here as well.
I am sorry if you find this wrong, but I really cannot understand why you do not want to discuss it on the gout website, where you will get input from hundreds of other gout sufferers.

If you insist on discussing it here, please make your question relevant to nutrition. At the very least, please explain to me how the PRAL values for a food are an issue. I moved them from my gout site because they are only relevant to kidney stones.

I genuinely love a good discussion, but I cannot see the relevance of this one. Please help me out by telling me where I have gone wrong in my explanations.

By the way, I changed your link so it is not clickable. I do not want to encourage people to read the nonsense that is written there, but if anyone wishes to do so, they can copy and paste the link.

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